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    Vertex Lumina LED Review Surfaces, Ignites Optics Debate

    Yesterday evening, we received a link from long time reader The Dog Father, which directed us towards a new review of the Vertex Lumina LED light. You can find the document which cites its authors as  J. Behzad and A. Schneider here [PDF]. Note that the file is hosted by Vertex–the hosting of the file [...]

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    Yesterday evening, we received a link from long time reader The Dog Father, which directed us towards a new review of the Vertex Lumina LED light. You can find the document which cites its authors as  J. Behzad and A. Schneider here [PDF]. Note that the file is hosted by Vertex–the hosting of the file as well as the highly specific nature of the report raise question if this examination and review was done independently. I’d guess it was not. Keep this in mind for any and all equipment reviews. I am also hesitant to use the word review to describe this article–it is more justification and support for the Lumina’s LED design than any review aquarists are accustomed to reading.

    All that said, we now have some confirmation of past reported features and additional specifics on the Vertex Lumina LED light:

    • Onboard computer controls each LED module wirelessly (based on IEEE 802.15.4 PHY)
      • LCD screen, 4 buttons
      • Default, Custom and Expert modes–Expert enables real time, complete control via PC & V-link USB
    • Each module has 3 colors: White, Blue (470nm)  and Royal Blue (450nm)
      • 16 LEDs (8W, 4B, 4 RB) @ 40w max
    • Modules can be swapped out for additional color options (i.e. red)
    • Large aluminum heatisink body, with a “heat channel” and fans to keep operating temperatures low

    The review is quite detailed. I would argue too detailed. In fact, I fear the greek-smeared paper will be too intimidating for most aquarists to take the time to read, digest and analyze. I admit, having read this just last night, I have not had the time to digest and settle all my thoughts. However some surprises and omissions have already caught my attention. I’d like to preface my opinions in that, I am basing this off of just the review which, given the nature of this particular review, is not a reflection of the Vertex Lumina LED light. Rather, my questions are based around support Behzad and Schneider provide for the design of the Vertex Lumina. I would also say I applaud Vertex for taking a different approach–right or wrong, if they bring a new option to the table that is different than what is currently available and they defend their ideas–hats off to them.

    Lastly, no contact information or credentials have been given on the document. Hopefully Vertex, Behzad and Schneider will be ready to engage in conversation with aquarists on this–as this ‘review’ will certainly spark debate.

    The review dives into the serious discussion of LED optics with:

    While most vendors of LED fixtures ship their parts with LED optics to focus the light to an extreme spot where very high PAR values are achieved, Vertex decided to walk the way differently. The target was to get as much light as possible into the tank and concurrently achieve a flat light distribution to satisfy all animals wherever they are located.

    vertex lumina led review

    Omitting the actual calculations and Snell walkthrough, the writers offer up some math to theoretically show that using a specific height and an LED with a beam angle of 124 degrees (bare emitter) that no “stray light” would leave the tank–that is the refraction of the light from the water and tank sides would direct it to your light hungry corals, and sand bed, and rocks. They go on to say:

    Fixtures that use LED optics claim they use this for more penetration, to have more PAR for example on the sand bed. However usually people that have corals on the sand bed are not too worried about light intensity because these are low light demanding corals. Those people that have SPS, or light demanding corals want to put the coral closer to the surface of the water so they get more light.

    With optics closer to the water surface the diameter of the light spread circles are smaller, that means while there are a lot of light in that little spot, the dead spots in the shallower depths are even more than what is on the sand bed, however people don’t see this because these is no object to reflect the light in the water in that depth, but this effect (spotting optic effect) is clearly visible on the sand bed although is not even as intense of the shallower water.

    To start, we’re talking performance. Performance does not appeal to probability; that most aquarists are happy with their Discoma ground cover. Kidding, but rationalizing intensity drop off?  They later go on suggesting that some corals have not been successful under LEDs due to high and low intensity spotting due to LED optics. It is with these later parts I disagree with in experience and in their calculations.

    Behzad and Schneider raise some valid points regarding light refraction in an aquarium test setting, or a static lab state. However, that math gets changed when the aquarium is filled with live animals and moving water. See the issue with light refraction and both internal and external reflection, is that the interface, or water surface is constantly changing.

    Overall I find this example and the provided calculations less applicable than one would think. Show me some water surface data sets, run them through some monte carlo algos and then we can actually attempt to quantify the effect. While this is easier said than done, their “attack” on optics needs much more support.

    For your application, which side of the LED fence are you on: Optics or Bare Emitters?

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    • TheDogFather

      I've been comparing the Vertex Lumina (no optics, 60 degree spread) to the Auqa Illumination (with optics, 40 degree spread) and for my 18″ shallow tank the 60 degree spread of the Vertex would provide much better light coverage overall. Some of the Chinese made LED fixtures are using no optics and are still achieving good depth penetration by utilizing additional 30W LED's on their fixtures.

    • Andrew

      I guess the question that needs to be asked is “where are the studies and data for emitters with optics on aquariums with moving surface water”? Step one is producing some data and published studies. Check for Vertex. Step two would be amassing some studies with different emitters and optics and developing a consensus on adequate control for fair comparisons. To this point most of the chest thumping about LEDs has been based on theory and conjecture. Hats off to Vertex for producing something, even if it is internally funded “research”.

    • Ron

      I am working with a LFS to set up several test arrays using different LEDs to run tests in a tank with corals and moving water etc. just as suggested. We will also probably do some testing of PAR with and without optics. As for the use of optics or not, it all depends on what you want to achieve and what corals you want to keep at what depth. I do believe optics are of great benefit as you will get better penetration and higher PAR at greater depths. If all you want to do is keep SPS in the top 6 to 8 inches of your tank then a fixture such as this or a MAXspect may work. If you want higher PAR lower down in a deeper tank then spending $2800 on a fixture such as this will likely disappoint you. the other thing to remember is that even though they say they emit over 140 degrees, there is still some fall off of light from the emitters as you move out from center. By clustering all their LEDS down the center of the fixture I suspect that the Vertex will see higher PAR down the middle of the tank and lower PAP towards the front and back. I am curious to see real world tests once this fixture is in the wild.

    • Vertex Aquaristik

      Hi Eric
      Though all the calculations and concept of this document are accurate, we never finished editing or finishing this document, I am not sure how it became public. A similar version was distributed in small quantities at Interzoo in paper format but not the PDF file!!
      Illumina has been work in process for the past 18 months, we are very proud of the design, performance and all the extras that it has to offer. The purpose of this document is to explain and engage the user in the design process directly rather than just making a light fixture. There are other great products on the market as well that use other technologies, however this is the design that we find suit and fit our customers life style and applications best.
      We do have under water PAR tests done for the fixture. This was the base of our grading process.
      You can see the par peek and average at Approximately 19” under the water surface and the fixture positioned 6” above the water level.
      3D Par distribution can show you how much par you will have at this depth at different distances from the light source.
      Again the objective of this document is to explain our position in design decisions rather than starting a debate about the use of optics with others.
      Regards
      Jason

    • http://glassbox-design.com/ eric michael

      Hi Jason,

      Thanks for chiming in. I hope you did not take my remarks as it was the intention of Vertex to start this debate or quarrel among other companies. Rather, the discussion of bare emitter v optics was a long time coming and the analysis provided in the Vertex PDF has sparked or encouraged this discussion. A good thing IMO.

      I've looked in the calculations and they do appear correct. However, I still do question their applicability. That said–I appreciate the effort and detail taken to support your design, rather then putting it out to the market and making claims as so many manufacturers / importers do these days.

      Best,
      Eric

    • TheDogFather

      Hi Jason, I just placed an order for the SR1200 but I must say that I am disappointed that Vertex touts itself as a leader in the hobby yet the your website is woefully out of date, lacks tons of product information and is inaccessible to non flash devices (iPad, iPhone).

      Please remedy this soon.

      Regards

      -TDF

    • Albert

      @TDF

      Ah, fear not! We have been working with Vertex on a rather extensive renovations of their website including an update of all products as well as increased compatibility with mobile browsers.

      I’m sure Raymond (Vertex) can chime in here when his timezone allows :D

      - Albert
      Proline Aquatics

    • Albert

      @TDF

      Ah, fear not! We have been working with Vertex on a rather extensive renovations of their website including an update of all products as well as increased compatibility with mobile browsers.

      I'm sure Raymond (Vertex) can chime in here when his timezone allows :D

      - Albert
      Proline Aquatics

    • Ron

      Just to add a bit to the optics vs. no optics debate, dead spots or spotlighting is not really a problem if the arrays are set up correctly. With LEDs 2 inches apart there is complete blending of light 3.4 inches below the optics with 60 degree optics and complete blending about 5.5 inches below with 40 degree optics. Even moving the emitters to 2.5 inches apart you have blending at 4.3 inches below with 60 degree optics and 6.8 inches below with 40 degree optics. So unless your optics are exactly at your water surface there shouldn’t be a problem. keep the fixture a couple inches above your water and even with 40 degree optics you may only see some spotlighting in the top 2 or 3 inches of the tank (assuming you have anything there).

    • Ron

      Just to add a bit to the optics vs. no optics debate, dead spots or spotlighting is not really a problem if the arrays are set up correctly. With LEDs 2 inches apart there is complete blending of light 3.4 inches below the optics with 60 degree optics and complete blending about 5.5 inches below with 40 degree optics. Even moving the emitters to 2.5 inches apart you have blending at 4.3 inches below with 60 degree optics and 6.8 inches below with 40 degree optics. So unless your optics are exactly at your water surface there shouldn't be a problem. keep the fixture a couple inches above your water and even with 40 degree optics you may only see some spotlighting in the top 2 or 3 inches of the tank (assuming you have anything there).

    • TheDogFather

      Thanks for the update Albert! Can you share with us when the Illumina’s will be shipped to retailers?

      Thanks

      -TDF

    • TheDogFather

      Thanks for the update Albert! Can you share with us when the Illumina's will be shipped to retailers?

      Thanks

      -TDF

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