Comments on: Tailless Clownfish Are Just Weird

By: Lightning Maroon Link Blitz - The Lightning Project

Lightning Maroon Link Blitz - The Lightning Project — Tue, 05 Oct 2010 06:42:13 +0000

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By: Tailless Clownfish Are Just Weird. - Michigan Reefers

Tailless Clownfish Are Just Weird. - Michigan Reefers — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:08:30 +0000

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By: AndyNarwhal

AndyNarwhal — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:55:28 +0000

I am sure this deformity happens in nature sporadically. But to a single individual here and there. Not TWO fish of the same age at once! Occam's razor states roughly that the simplest explanation is usually the right one. In this case the fact that tail mutilation is common place in SE Asia and that the odds of two fish of the same age with the same deformity is orders of magnitude less likely to happen one needs to assume the former and not the latter. This practice is barbaric and should be discouraged at all times. What's next? Tattooed Yellow tangs with big heart signs on them?

By: AndyNarwhal

AndyNarwhal — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:55:00 +0000

I am sure this deformity happens in nature sporadically. But to a single individual here and there. Not TWO fish of the same age at once! Occam’s razor states roughly that the simplest explanation is usually the right one. In this case the fact that tail mutilation is common place in SE Asia and that the odds of two fish of the same age with the same deformity is orders of magnitude less likely to happen one needs to assume the former and not the latter. This practice is barbaric and should be discouraged at all times. What’s next? Tattooed Yellow tangs with big heart signs on them?

By: William Crook

William Crook — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 04:38:23 +0000

I have had a potter angel without a tail before. Wild caught. I don't know if it is from a injury when it was young or if it was born that way.

William Crook

By: eric michael

eric michael — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 02:43:24 +0000

@Neverdie, Andy and Frode

Thanks for chiming in guys, your input is much appreciated. I do agree that this can be done via human intervention. However, it has also occurred in wild collected marine fish. I've personally seen it on a sub-adult Pomacanthid.

The big question is if this is genetic or physically induced. Although likely the later, as these are clowns, it would be interesting to see if the pair could spawn and what the resulting juveniles would look like.

By: Hubert Chan

Hubert Chan — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 02:39:55 +0000

coming from asia … and two of them. I just don't believe they are wild occurring.

By: Weird clown no tail. - Manhattan Reefs

Weird clown no tail. - Manhattan Reefs — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 23:22:58 +0000

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By: Neverdie

Neverdie — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:02:43 +0000

I have to agree with Andy practical fishkeeping has reported extensively on the topic.
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/content.p...
it was no doubt only a matter of time before this practice was seen in the saltwater end of the hobby

By: AndyNarwhal

AndyNarwhal — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:45:47 +0000

I doubt these fish are wild caught. Tail clipping is a common practice in Singapore and is done to mollies and parrot cichlids commercially. The caudal peduncle is cut off the fish at a young age and then allowed to heal. If you think about it the chances of this occuring naturally are probably one in a million, and for the fish to survive long enough to reach this size even more improbable. Then add in the fact that you are looking at TWO fish with the same improbable rates of survival to this point and you really see that there is more going on here than meets the eye.