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	<title>Comments on: Update from the LED Legal Battle, PFO Still Fighting?</title>
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		<title>By: Aqua Illumination's New White LED Light &#124; glassbox-design.com</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/update-from-the-led-legal-battle-pfo-still-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-5877</link>
		<dc:creator>Aqua Illumination's New White LED Light &#124; glassbox-design.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] seems many have forgotten about Aqua Illumination. Between the Orbitec Patent fiasco and AI&#8217;s early testing of plasma lighting, their flagship Aqua Illumination Modular [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] seems many have forgotten about Aqua Illumination. Between the Orbitec Patent fiasco and AI&#8217;s early testing of plasma lighting, their flagship Aqua Illumination Modular [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PFO Bankruptcy Means LED Legal Battle is Over &#124; glassbox-design.com</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/update-from-the-led-legal-battle-pfo-still-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-4137</link>
		<dc:creator>PFO Bankruptcy Means LED Legal Battle is Over &#124; glassbox-design.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to PFOs bankruptcy which precluded the summary judgement, the LED aquarium legal battle is now over. The PFO v Orbitec case has been dismissed. To prevent [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to PFOs bankruptcy which precluded the summary judgement, the LED aquarium legal battle is now over. The PFO v Orbitec case has been dismissed. To prevent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Elebriend</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/update-from-the-led-legal-battle-pfo-still-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-4097</link>
		<dc:creator>Elebriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m right there with ya Shayne. Problem is, what they are doing is legal, it isn&#039;t right but it&#039;s legal. Go over to nano-reef.com and go to the DIY section, Evilc66 is the lead in DIY LED lights over there if anyone&#039;s interested. At this point in time I am laughing at Orbitech. At this point in time they can&#039;t stop legal action since it would cost them dearly but at the same time they have screwed themselves up to the point that people are now going alternatives routes. If Tom Crabb was such an avid reefer 1. why haven&#039;t we seen him on any of these forums and 2. why didn&#039;t he consider some of the reprocussions, I mean spend a few hours on some of these forums and it&#039;s clear: The community is resourceful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m right there with ya Shayne. Problem is, what they are doing is legal, it isn&#8217;t right but it&#8217;s legal. Go over to nano-reef.com and go to the DIY section, Evilc66 is the lead in DIY LED lights over there if anyone&#8217;s interested. At this point in time I am laughing at Orbitech. At this point in time they can&#8217;t stop legal action since it would cost them dearly but at the same time they have screwed themselves up to the point that people are now going alternatives routes. If Tom Crabb was such an avid reefer 1. why haven&#8217;t we seen him on any of these forums and 2. why didn&#8217;t he consider some of the reprocussions, I mean spend a few hours on some of these forums and it&#8217;s clear: The community is resourceful.</p>
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		<title>By: Shayne</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/update-from-the-led-legal-battle-pfo-still-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-4096</link>
		<dc:creator>Shayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest Anthony Calfo, Richard Durso, Dr. Dean Jaubert, Dietrich Stuber, Ken Stockman, and every other inventor of one profound marine aquarium system or another head over to Orbitec&#039;s president, Tom Crabb&#039;s house and inspect his marine system. Anything that remotely resembles their intellectual property should be ripped out and proceedings made to sue his ass. 
This type of behaviour is not nor has it ever been part of the aquarium and reefing community and I suggest we all make efforts to quash this. If we want to get ridiculous perhaps I can sue Orbitec since I thought of lighting with LED&#039;s back around 1994 when I had a battery charger next to my 25g (saltwater coral skeleton system..LOL) casting a red glow then a green glow (once the batteries were charged). I am positive others have thought of things like this even prior to that.....
Should Orbitec win I suggest a huge DIY LED lighting project posted on every aquarium forum and website or a couple of well placed emails to Chinese manufacturers that will scoff at American patent laws. 

I for one am sick of waiting for a viable alternative to replacing my metal halides with something much more eco-friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest Anthony Calfo, Richard Durso, Dr. Dean Jaubert, Dietrich Stuber, Ken Stockman, and every other inventor of one profound marine aquarium system or another head over to Orbitec&#8217;s president, Tom Crabb&#8217;s house and inspect his marine system. Anything that remotely resembles their intellectual property should be ripped out and proceedings made to sue his ass.<br />
This type of behaviour is not nor has it ever been part of the aquarium and reefing community and I suggest we all make efforts to quash this. If we want to get ridiculous perhaps I can sue Orbitec since I thought of lighting with LED&#8217;s back around 1994 when I had a battery charger next to my 25g (saltwater coral skeleton system..LOL) casting a red glow then a green glow (once the batteries were charged). I am positive others have thought of things like this even prior to that&#8230;..<br />
Should Orbitec win I suggest a huge DIY LED lighting project posted on every aquarium forum and website or a couple of well placed emails to Chinese manufacturers that will scoff at American patent laws. </p>
<p>I for one am sick of waiting for a viable alternative to replacing my metal halides with something much more eco-friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: damon</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/update-from-the-led-legal-battle-pfo-still-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-3633</link>
		<dc:creator>damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have bought a 4000$ led lighting system and it does not work. I have had it 6 mos and cannot get it fixed. How do you think i feel about this fight. I believe and think i am the victim not pfo or orbitec. I the consumer is S O L. you figure that out. =That is wrong.............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have bought a 4000$ led lighting system and it does not work. I have had it 6 mos and cannot get it fixed. How do you think i feel about this fight. I believe and think i am the victim not pfo or orbitec. I the consumer is S O L. you figure that out. =That is wrong&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Elebriend</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/update-from-the-led-legal-battle-pfo-still-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-3398</link>
		<dc:creator>Elebriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it seems to me, by reading the PFO reply, that Gustafson may be the achilles heel. I wonder if this thing blow back up in their faces if she will be invited to the company summer BBQ. Now if this information is true, and I suspect it is condsidering that it isn&#039;t second hand information, it appears that Ms Gustafson was looking for other aquarium LED lighting fixtures while the examiner was looking at their info and that she didn&#039;t tell him? I mean particularly since she signed a legal document saying she would doesnt this almost nullify the patent since that is one of rules you have to obey? Quick who knows an attorney friend :P?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it seems to me, by reading the PFO reply, that Gustafson may be the achilles heel. I wonder if this thing blow back up in their faces if she will be invited to the company summer BBQ. Now if this information is true, and I suspect it is condsidering that it isn&#8217;t second hand information, it appears that Ms Gustafson was looking for other aquarium LED lighting fixtures while the examiner was looking at their info and that she didn&#8217;t tell him? I mean particularly since she signed a legal document saying she would doesnt this almost nullify the patent since that is one of rules you have to obey? Quick who knows an attorney friend <img src='http://glassbox-design.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ?</p>
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		<title>By: Anyone know what's up with LED lighting? - 3reef Forums</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/update-from-the-led-legal-battle-pfo-still-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-3202</link>
		<dc:creator>Anyone know what's up with LED lighting? - 3reef Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] design. PFO is still in the fight and seems to have some valid claims that may hold up in court.. PFO v Orbitec case continues, Orbital Technologies &quot;Orbitec&quot; Patent on LED Lighting for Ma...  Guess we will have to wait and see how this pans [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] design. PFO is still in the fight and seems to have some valid claims that may hold up in court.. PFO v Orbitec case continues, Orbital Technologies &quot;Orbitec&quot; Patent on LED Lighting for Ma&#8230;  Guess we will have to wait and see how this pans [...]</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/update-from-the-led-legal-battle-pfo-still-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-3193</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not buying a system until this has blown over or licensing deals are made public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not buying a system until this has blown over or licensing deals are made public.</p>
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		<title>By: Solaris lawsuit update - The Talkingreef Community</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/update-from-the-led-legal-battle-pfo-still-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-3184</link>
		<dc:creator>Solaris lawsuit update - The Talkingreef Community</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Solaris lawsuit update   I&#039;ve been &quot;googling&quot; every other day or so to see what&#039;s up. Here&#039;s the latest.  PFO v Orbitec case continues, Orbital Technologies &quot;Orbitec&quot; Patent on LED Lighting for Ma... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Solaris lawsuit update   I&#8217;ve been &quot;googling&quot; every other day or so to see what&#8217;s up. Here&#8217;s the latest.  PFO v Orbitec case continues, Orbital Technologies &quot;Orbitec&quot; Patent on LED Lighting for Ma&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh...pg 13 in Sanjay&#039;s depo

7 Q And LED stands for lead and diode, right?
8 A Right.

What does it mean when they can&#039;t even get a simple and crucial definition correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh&#8230;pg 13 in Sanjay&#8217;s depo</p>
<p>7 Q And LED stands for lead and diode, right?<br />
8 A Right.</p>
<p>What does it mean when they can&#8217;t even get a simple and crucial definition correct?</p>
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