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	<title>Comments on: Orbital Technologies Hurting PFO and Aquarium Industry &#8211; Are LEDs Even an Option?</title>
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		<title>By: Adjustable Lamps</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/orbital-technologies-hurting-pfo-and-aquarium-industry-are-leds-even-an-option/comment-page-1/#comment-8714</link>
		<dc:creator>Adjustable Lamps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just came and read, this is wow! I was seek from many blogs, but here is the best, I love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just came and read, this is wow! I was seek from many blogs, but here is the best, I love it.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffwalther</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffwalther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.   See this thread that I just published.   &lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=233152&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showt...&lt;/a&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In it I show that as early as the year 2000 the concept of programmable/adjustable LED lighting for marine aquariums was in the public domain.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;An excerpt from rec.aquaria.marine.reefs in the year 2000:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Someone with the right equipment could test these light sources against our current lighting (VHO, MH, PC, etc.). Give this some thought as I see many possible applications such as dawn/dusk simulation, night lighting, and complimenting daylight and actinic lighting. I&#039;m not asking for opinions here. I&#039;m asking for some facts and any experiments that have been done. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.   See this thread that I just published.   &lt;<a href="http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=233152" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showt.." rel="nofollow">http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showt..</a>.&gt;</p>
<p>In it I show that as early as the year 2000 the concept of programmable/adjustable LED lighting for marine aquariums was in the public domain.</p>
<p>An excerpt from rec.aquaria.marine.reefs in the year 2000:</p>
<p>&#8220;Someone with the right equipment could test these light sources against our current lighting (VHO, MH, PC, etc.). Give this some thought as I see many possible applications such as dawn/dusk simulation, night lighting, and complimenting daylight and actinic lighting. I&#39;m not asking for opinions here. I&#39;m asking for some facts and any experiments that have been done. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Dor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Dor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The initial patent document was filed on 15 Dec 2004, and I have great difficulty in beleiving that nobody in the USA was selling LED lights for marine aquariums before that date, or that nobody had published anything about this or shown LED lights in a Trade show or something similar. Any public appearance of any kind showing LED lights used in marine aquariums would instantly invalidate this patent; there must be somebody able to prove that LED lights have been used or shown or even talked about in the US before that date of 15 Dec 2004?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The initial patent document was filed on 15 Dec 2004, and I have great difficulty in beleiving that nobody in the USA was selling LED lights for marine aquariums before that date, or that nobody had published anything about this or shown LED lights in a Trade show or something similar. Any public appearance of any kind showing LED lights used in marine aquariums would instantly invalidate this patent; there must be somebody able to prove that LED lights have been used or shown or even talked about in the US before that date of 15 Dec 2004?</p>
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		<title>By: Light Experts Needed!!! - The Talkingreef Community</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/orbital-technologies-hurting-pfo-and-aquarium-industry-are-leds-even-an-option/comment-page-1/#comment-6457</link>
		<dc:creator>Light Experts Needed!!! - The Talkingreef Community</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 05:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is what happened with the Solaris. Orbital Technologies LED Aquarium Patent Crippling PFO and Aquarium Industry &#124; glassbox-design.com  __________________ Carmie  Only disasters happen fast!    Carmie&#039;s 54 Corner Tank Carmie&#039;s Cube   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is what happened with the Solaris. Orbital Technologies LED Aquarium Patent Crippling PFO and Aquarium Industry | glassbox-design.com  __________________ Carmie  Only disasters happen fast!    Carmie&#39;s 54 Corner Tank Carmie&#39;s Cube   [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New Maxspect LED Aquatic Illumination Lamp from Japan - Page 3 - 3reef Forums</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/orbital-technologies-hurting-pfo-and-aquarium-industry-are-leds-even-an-option/comment-page-1/#comment-6212</link>
		<dc:creator>New Maxspect LED Aquatic Illumination Lamp from Japan - Page 3 - 3reef Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Originally Posted by Dr.Fragenstein   Isn&#039;t Aquatic Illumination the company that sued PFO over the Solaris due to patent infrigement??? Are we sure that the numbers listed aren&#039;t US or even Euro for that matter? We positive its Yen?    I think it was Orbital Technologies, unless Aquatic Illumination is some sort of parent company or subsidiary or something. Orbital Technologies LED Aquarium Patent Crippling PFO and Aquarium Industry &#124; glassbox-design.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Originally Posted by Dr.Fragenstein   Isn&#39;t Aquatic Illumination the company that sued PFO over the Solaris due to patent infrigement??? Are we sure that the numbers listed aren&#39;t US or even Euro for that matter? We positive its Yen?    I think it was Orbital Technologies, unless Aquatic Illumination is some sort of parent company or subsidiary or something. Orbital Technologies LED Aquarium Patent Crippling PFO and Aquarium Industry | glassbox-design.com [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Someone selling LED system already. - 3reef Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Someone selling LED system already. - 3reef Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Originally Posted by horkn   The other thing I know is that PFO got sued for making the Solaris, and I think that PFO lost big time and went out of business. The solaris had a nice warranty IIRC. If PFO is OOB, then the warranty might be gone. That might be another reason to sell the fixture.    I&#039;m guessing this is it as well, PFO definitely went OOB, although I don&#039;t believe they ever even made it to court. There are some people out there trying to find ways to service these units themselves but I think you need to be pretty handy in order to do so since there&#039;s definitely no manufacturer support for them right now.  Here&#039;s some more info if anyone&#039;s interested, check out the related articles as well. Orbital Technologies LED Aquarium Patent Crippling PFO and Aquarium Industry &#124; glassbox-design.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Originally Posted by horkn   The other thing I know is that PFO got sued for making the Solaris, and I think that PFO lost big time and went out of business. The solaris had a nice warranty IIRC. If PFO is OOB, then the warranty might be gone. That might be another reason to sell the fixture.    I&#39;m guessing this is it as well, PFO definitely went OOB, although I don&#39;t believe they ever even made it to court. There are some people out there trying to find ways to service these units themselves but I think you need to be pretty handy in order to do so since there&#39;s definitely no manufacturer support for them right now.  Here&#39;s some more info if anyone&#39;s interested, check out the related articles as well. Orbital Technologies LED Aquarium Patent Crippling PFO and Aquarium Industry | glassbox-design.com [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vitrea Orbital LED Collection &#124; glassbox-design.com</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/orbital-technologies-hurting-pfo-and-aquarium-industry-are-leds-even-an-option/comment-page-1/#comment-5130</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitrea Orbital LED Collection &#124; glassbox-design.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] shocker? The name! Vitrea is calling this their Orbital LED 2009 collection. You may remember Orbital Technologies, also known as &#8216;Orbitec&#8216;, is the Wisconsin based company that holds a rather broad [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] shocker? The name! Vitrea is calling this their Orbital LED 2009 collection. You may remember Orbital Technologies, also known as &#8216;Orbitec&#8216;, is the Wisconsin based company that holds a rather broad [...]</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://glassbox-design.com/2009/orbital-technologies-hurting-pfo-and-aquarium-industry-are-leds-even-an-option/comment-page-1/#comment-4167</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets start a petition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets start a petition</p>
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		<title>By: eric michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nancy,

At the moment I am unaware of any definite answers... If I find anything I&#039;ll be sure to pass it along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nancy,</p>
<p>At the moment I am unaware of any definite answers&#8230; If I find anything I&#8217;ll be sure to pass it along.</p>
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		<title>By: NANCY BALCERZAK</title>
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		<dc:creator>NANCY BALCERZAK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I writing to see if anyone can tell me where I can find a power supply for the Solaris I-4.  I need a help with the source for these.  Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I writing to see if anyone can tell me where I can find a power supply for the Solaris I-4.  I need a help with the source for these.  Thank you</p>
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