Comments on: Freshwater and Saltwater Fish Live Together in Koutekikankyousui

By: So I had this odd dream last nite..

So I had this odd dream last nite.. — Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:53:19 +0000

[...] like that had ever been done before so I googled it up this afternoon and came up with this… http://glassbox-design.com/2009/fres…ekikankyousui/ Anyone ever seen / heard of / tried anything like this? I'd imagine its a little rough on the [...]

By: Benefits of a Salt Water

Benefits of a Salt Water — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:08:30 +0000

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By: Benefits of a Salt Water

Benefits of a Salt Water — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:08:00 +0000

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By: Who says FW and SW fish can't be together? - 3reef Forums

Who says FW and SW fish can't be together? - 3reef Forums — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:03:20 +0000

[...] to give the inhabitants what they need, so be it. Another example below. I don't think it's fake. Freshwater and Saltwater Fish Live Together in Koutekikankyousui | glassbox-design.com _________ By the opening of my wallet, something fishy this way comes 75G reef: 20g sump, 4x [...]

By: Nicholas Sadaka

Nicholas Sadaka — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:16:45 +0000

Tell it Sam!!!

By: sam

sam — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:51:55 +0000

@Nick ..yeah but that is exactly what is pictured here and what this whole blog is about.

If this can help aquaculture I’m all for it but lets use it to breed tuna, gigas clams, and other marine animals that we have hunted to virtual extinction for food, not clown fish. Lets use it so that we can eat shark fin soup without having to kill sharks out of the ocean. Using it to keep fancy goldfish and clown fish in the same body of water is a pointless waste of time.

By: Nick

Nick — Thu, 28 May 2009 16:46:02 +0000

As stated above, think about the application this could have on aquaculture. An environment that the fish can survive and possibly thrive in, yet an environment that bacterial and parasitic organisms can not. I see this as a possible application for Hospital tanks without using antibiotics or heavy metals.

We are talking about research people. NOT something to be used as a permanent home for showing off fish.

By: binda

binda — Sat, 23 May 2009 17:00:37 +0000

I’m with Jeremy on this one too. This research, on the face of it, looks cruel to all the species involved. The pH, temperature and salinity cannot be comfortable for all or any of the fish involved, whether they can live in it or not, and I’m betting that the fish’s long term health is affected adversely.

By: Nicholas Sadaka

Nicholas Sadaka — Fri, 22 May 2009 13:41:33 +0000

I have to admit, I feel much the same as Jeremy on most of these issues. I do understand the benefits of trying “extreme ideas” (when the person doing this is qualified to do so), if their goal is to develop or prove something that will help the situation in some aspect, and this becomes a pretty fine line. I am always interested in anything aquatic, so I’m certainly glad to now be aware of the story/efforts, but I would have to come out on the side of non-support as well…admittedly doing so without knowing the full story, but based on what is presented, it certainly seems, well, questionable.

By: Jeremy Maneyapanda

Jeremy Maneyapanda — Fri, 22 May 2009 11:12:32 +0000

Fair enough, but we will need to respectfully agree to disagree. I am not attacking techniques, innovation, or technology, but instead motivations and intentions. Sure, we can all argue that aquarium hobbyists are “bad” because we take animals from the ocean and do not re replicate that in the aquarium. But, we do try. We do attempt to make them live as long as we can, feed them as properly as we can, and maintain an environment as close to “natural” as we can. I dont see that here. I see the polar opposite. Further upon that, I would argue the benefits versus the outcome in a biological sense. I know I am being very gandiose, but, IMO , we cannot make a “better water”. We cannot beat mother nature. We cannot undo evolution in a mere lifetime, no less a few years (no less a few months or weeks). There will ultimately be a tradeoff. This is undesputable in my mind. The modern Aquarium hobby strives to minimize these deviations (by keeping fish at proper salinities, feeding appropriate diets, etc). That is why try to educate on not keeping nurse sharks in 55 gallon tanks, leaving impossible to keep fish or obligate corallivores in the ocean, etc. In this case, the two different genera of of fish come from EXTREMELY different environments (saltwater with a relatively high pH, some acidif FW fish with a relative low pH), not even counting salinity, yet (or temperature, or other variables). I dont understand how this can be sensitive to the needs of the animals, nor allow them appropriate lives. Again, I am not knocking the innovation or technology here, iut is apparently very wonderful and ingenious, but I wont ever see the value of it. Please understand, this is merely my opinion on the matter, which I am expressing. I wont attack or negate anyone elses here. Thansk for hearing me out.