Comments on: 5 High Performance Hang on the Back Skimmers

By: lianne00

lianne00 — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:19:19 +0000

Dear Glassbox,
May I ask if you would suggest the Deltec MCE600 or 300 for a 29 Gallon reef? I don't mind paying more if the performance is better, but I also don't want to overskim the tank I would hang this from. The tank has 3 one-inch fish and one 4-inch, and various corals. Quiet would be better. Thanks very much for any opinions you would have about this.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:19:00 +0000

Dear Glassbox,
May I ask if you would suggest the Deltec MCE600 or 300 for a 29 Gallon reef? I don’t mind paying more if the performance is better, but I also don’t want to overskim the tank I would hang this from. The tank has 3 one-inch fish and one 4-inch, and various corals. Quiet would be better. Thanks very much for any opinions you would have about this.

By: Ronaldcuervo

Ronaldcuervo — Sat, 27 Mar 2010 04:56:32 +0000

Please if its posible, send me an e mail to jrcg69 @ hotmail.com
Thanks Ronald

By: Ronaldcuervo

Ronaldcuervo — Sat, 27 Mar 2010 04:54:29 +0000

Hi. Is my first time with salt water acuariums my acuarium is 150 litres (50 galons I think) I was trying to make a home made skimmer but it does not work I don want to spend more money in something that maibe is not going to work, please i need help to made the rigth desicion to buy a skimmer, my acuarium is not big so i need a hang on the back skimmer please somebody help me with this; i want something not to expensive and somethin just to plug in and use it. Thanks Ronald

By: Recommend me a QUIET skimmer

Recommend me a QUIET skimmer — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:55:23 +0000

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By: skimerwhisperer

skimerwhisperer — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:48:48 +0000

sorry for getting agro, eric,
my only “agenda” is to help people make informed decisions about skimmer purchases and to praise manufacturers who make equipment that is well made without taking us all to the bank. I dont care who makes what, just that it performs as advertised, and that companies stand behind their products. I also dislike it when skimmers/equipment become popular, but is made from sub-par parts/pumps, and I’m not afraid to reveal those to the public. So if that’s an agenda, then so be it. And unfortunately, I disagree with you, I think that CS is paramount to making purchases, and is almost as important as performance and build quality. Im not going to just rely upon the “good will” of my LFS, personally…

Thanks for the good luck, I’m going to need it if I’m to survive in the insane, cut throat world of skimmer production….lol

By: eric michael

eric michael — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:15:47 +0000

@skimer

Nothing misinformed about the above statements. You’ve made your personal agendas well known on various forums. Please keep it civil here or keep your comments to yourself.

Best of luck on your new equipment line.

By: skimerwhisperer

skimerwhisperer — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:58:06 +0000

WOW…very laughable…
poor skimmer advice, and mis-information, what a treat!

By: eric michael

eric michael — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:40:34 +0000

@skimer,

Some quick responses before heading out the door:

-The SWC is mentioned, forewarning about modifications is also given for both models. Depending on bio-load either can be applicable.

-Customer service has no bearing on skimmer performance. At the end of the day the dealer you buy from is your CS go-to. Both are made in the same place and feature the same motor block.

-Yes, most people in the HOB market place do not require 32 scfh. That amount of air draw can easily handle a 150g tank on a well designed skimmer. (At this volume, in sump or externals are a much better option.) A proper balanced body and neck to air intake should be the goal, not air stats alone.

-The BH-500 features a very poor pump IMO.

-SWC did not “originate” that design. It has been through out Asia for many years… as well as featured on Deltec prior to. These days everything is built upon one another… if it is truly inventive, skimmer companies should patent the idea.

-Moded or not, Sedra pumps are poor for skimmer applications. However, Jon Warner is extremely limited–at that size there are not many options. JNS is the only company I am aware of modifying these pumps.

By: skimerwhisperer

skimerwhisperer — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 02:38:41 +0000

You put that octo bh-800 up there, then say most people don’t need the 32scfh that the SWC extreme hob provides??? …wow

IMO, octo bh-800 is total crap and has to be modded to accommodate for CV’s lack of intelligence.
And not to mention it’s a total rip off of the SWC bh-500 with a crappily modded, mis-matched sicce psk2500 installed, add CV’s notoriously poor CS and you get a very poor skimmer.

Both the SWC bh-500 and new extreme hob overpower the deltec mce600, are quieter than the mce600, cheaper, and have a better neck/cup design, IMO.

Also, the WM H1, even 1st gen. was an incredible skimmer for nano tanks!!! even with it’ small neck and turbulent body it totally rocked! now it’s getting the bubble plate and wider neck, and the WM mods on the sedra pumps is unparalleled.