Comments on: Amino Acids, do they work? http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/ the modern reef blog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: glassbox-design.com » The Balling Method | How does it differ from Two Part? http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/comment-page-1/#comment-879 glassbox-design.com » The Balling Method | How does it differ from Two Part? Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:10 +0000 http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/#comment-879 [...] Balling Light includes trace elements, but skips many of the more complicated Amino Acid and NaCl free salt additions that are used in the Balling Complete Method. Instead it relies on [...] [...] Balling Light includes trace elements, but skips many of the more complicated Amino Acid and NaCl free salt additions that are used in the Balling Complete Method. Instead it relies on [...]

]]> By: glassbox-design.com » achieved through observation and experimentation http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/comment-page-1/#comment-530 glassbox-design.com » achieved through observation and experimentation Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:48:21 +0000 http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/#comment-530 [...] For more info on Aminos’ check out this article: Do they work?  [...] [...] For more info on Aminos’ check out this article: Do they work?  [...]

]]> By: Vince http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/comment-page-1/#comment-332 Vince Sat, 17 May 2008 20:23:55 +0000 http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/#comment-332 Wow Great info I scraped this~ thanks. Wow Great info

I scraped this~ thanks.

]]> By: Nicolas http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/comment-page-1/#comment-156 Nicolas Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:28:02 +0000 http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/#comment-156 I have only experimented with Seachem's Reef Plus, which contains a large amount of trace elements and some Amino Acids. I've even in the past tried Mark Weiss products. I didn't try them for a few weeks, but a few months. Can't really say it's made an impact. I do however understand how Amino's help the uptake of nutrients when they're available. Even human body builders use sources of AA to help their body take up proteins better. I haven't seen a huge change. But what has attributed to a boost in my SPS color and PE was having elevated Ca, Mg, KH, feeding regularly. I definitely don't skim heavily. I do a 10% waterchange every 2 weeks. I don't use any other additives or trace elements. I am definitely happy with my colors and growth. I've got to a point where I'm happy with how things are in my reef tank. I will however from time to time try some new products or techniques. It's a growing and experimental hobby and being open to changes in the hobby is important. Imagine if we never went any further than Undergravel Filters :) great post :) I have only experimented with Seachem’s Reef Plus, which contains a large amount of trace elements and some Amino Acids. I’ve even in the past tried Mark Weiss products. I didn’t try them for a few weeks, but a few months. Can’t really say it’s made an impact. I do however understand how Amino’s help the uptake of nutrients when they’re available. Even human body builders use sources of AA to help their body take up proteins better.

I haven’t seen a huge change.

But what has attributed to a boost in my SPS color and PE was having elevated Ca, Mg, KH, feeding regularly. I definitely don’t skim heavily. I do a 10% waterchange every 2 weeks. I don’t use any other additives or trace elements. I am definitely happy with my colors and growth.

I’ve got to a point where I’m happy with how things are in my reef tank. I will however from time to time try some new products or techniques.

It’s a growing and experimental hobby and being open to changes in the hobby is important.

Imagine if we never went any further than Undergravel Filters :)

great post :)

]]> By: e&f http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/comment-page-1/#comment-153 e&f Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:12:46 +0000 http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/#comment-153 Hi Matt, There are quite a few studies showing the direct uptake of amino's by SPS and by bacteria. I'll have to dig around, but there are even uptake difference in dark versus light (pretty cool). I feel the larger benefit is in the utilization of the bacteria, rather than the direct uptake of the coral. In the case that that the coral does have direct uptake amino's, the study we quoted shows an increase in growth and effect on coloration. But I do agree, there are a very small group of individuals that would benefit from Amino's and have either a Normal (e.g. Berlin) system that are N limited, or a bac driven system such as prodibio. We appreciate your comment, it's always nice to hear different perspectives. e&f Hi Matt,

There are quite a few studies showing the direct uptake of amino’s by SPS and by bacteria. I’ll have to dig around, but there are even uptake difference in dark versus light (pretty cool). I feel the larger benefit is in the utilization of the bacteria, rather than the direct uptake of the coral. In the case that that the coral does have direct uptake amino’s, the study we quoted shows an increase in growth and effect on coloration.

But I do agree, there are a very small group of individuals that would benefit from Amino’s and have either a Normal (e.g. Berlin) system that are N limited, or a bac driven system such as prodibio.

We appreciate your comment, it’s always nice to hear different perspectives.

e&f

]]> By: Matt http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/comment-page-1/#comment-151 Matt Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:49:31 +0000 http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/#comment-151 I think the challenge is the definition of 'work', I don't have the paper in front of me, but there is one (a referral of mesocosm) that specifically shows that sps can take up amino acids. But how does that 'work'?!? My .02 cents, aminos are a waste of money UNLESS you have a very N limited environment. If you bleach your corals due to changing the bulbs out, will aminos 'work', NO! I think there's a bit too much hype surrounding these, and room for a bit more logic.... I think the challenge is the definition of ‘work’, I don’t have the paper in front of me, but there is one (a referral of mesocosm) that specifically shows that sps can take up amino acids. But how does that ‘work’?!? My .02 cents, aminos are a waste of money UNLESS you have a very N limited environment. If you bleach your corals due to changing the bulbs out, will aminos ‘work’, NO! I think there’s a bit too much hype surrounding these, and room for a bit more logic….

]]> By: seachem’s aqua vitro line at glassbox http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/comment-page-1/#comment-150 seachem’s aqua vitro line at glassbox Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:46:42 +0000 http://glassbox-design.com/2008/amino-acids-do-they-work/#comment-150 [...]  Fuel is described as a “comprehensive carbohydrate, vitamin, amino acid, polyunsaturated fatty acid and trace element supplement developed to address nutritional requirements commonly associated with corals.” Perhaps a relabled Reef Plus, but it caught our eye and may be useful for those looking for an inexpensive amino acid supplement, which we get into here. [...] [...]  Fuel is described as a “comprehensive carbohydrate, vitamin, amino acid, polyunsaturated fatty acid and trace element supplement developed to address nutritional requirements commonly associated with corals.” Perhaps a relabled Reef Plus, but it caught our eye and may be useful for those looking for an inexpensive amino acid supplement, which we get into here. [...]

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